Deep Within Our Consciousness

Written by Mathew Naismith

Reference is made to BD and RD in the following. According to my friend I am presently in interaction with, BD and RD is referred to as below.

RD = God is the creator of the universe, as used by Christians and Hindus.

BD = “God is the spirit” as mentioned in the Bible and Samkhya (Vedas).

 

What you need to do xxxxxxx is go to a yogi, shaman or alike and ask to experience a timeless state and then come back to me. I can guarantee that your stance on freewill and God would have changed, of course you have to have the will to do this to start with. If you have written that freewill doesn't exist, point blank, this is unlikely to occur and understandably so. 

If you can prove the existence of any kind of God form in and through time, it is not truly a God form, for a true representation of God doesn't exist within a finite existence, only a perception of. You say you have proof of a BD God exists and that an RD God doesn't exist, I am going to suggest this is false. This is like saying that I can prove that water exists in the same exact space as extreme heat, or that light is as present within the darkness as darkness is. How about proving that a mountain is a flat plane!! To me, anyone who has unequivocal proof that a God exists within time, a materiel state based on the finite, I have to dismiss as being a human perceived falsity. 

Everything is written, meaning, that all scenarios that can be experienced is preordained, this doesn't mean freewill doesn't exist. Through the perception of time and a consciousness predominantly conditioned to and by time, freewill seems to not exist. This is like God doesn't seem to exist for a lot of people and understandably so. However, once our consciousness is conditioned to timelessness, the infinite, God and freewill perceived to exist, even though God or freewill can't be proven to exist in time, the finite, but only perceived.        

"There are many videos that say our technology came from the UFO-ETs."

Videos based on a consciousness conditioned to time, the finite, not the infinite xxxxxxx. As you have said yourself, it is all already written, this means everything is preordained way before the creation of aliens or of any form based on time. Our intelligence, awareness, wisdom, knowledge, technology, etc, comes from a source way before any forms creation, as you stated yourself, it is already written.  This makes no sense, as you say, our technology comes from aliens, while everything is preordained thus giving us no freewill!! You are obviously still not going deep enough, beyond the conditioning of time, this is too obvious xxxxxxx.

As I have stated before, get back to me once you have conditioned your consciousness to the infinite, while at the same time desisting in predominantly focusing on time based consciousness and existence.  You have proven to me many times this is exactly what you are doing xxxxxxx. 

My patience with you xxxxxxx is unquestionable is it not?

Going Beyond Time Based Perceptions

Written by Mathew Naismith

Once you are able to perceive beyond time based realities therefore consciousness, having a discussion with people, whose consciousness is only of time based realities, about life as a whole becomes quite difficult or awkward. Should you expect to have a reasonable discussion with an atheist or a scientist conditioned only to time based realities, consciousness? Time limits our consciousness to only part of life as a whole, so discussing life as a whole, which includes realities and consciousness beyond time, is going to be difficult in some way at times. When you realise this, having a discussion with other people about life as a whole becomes a lot easier. At no time expect a consciousness, conditioned only to time based perceptions and perspectives, to comprehend what you are trying to relay to them.  

The discussion continues.......

        

Man naturally bases his perceptions and perspectives on bias, often in line with his desires, this is also of natural law in regards to bias and desires. Natural law isn't just to do with 100% pure, natural law is to do with everything natural, as it is natural for a bias consciousness to perceive everything around it in a certain way, often inline with its desires or conditioning. You seem to desire that natural law is only to do with 100% pure, or in this case 100% truth, a huge mistake in my mind.

I would prefer 5% honest truth, a truth in the absence of bias, to 100% truth based primarily on bias and desires. This is the big difference between you and me. Another big difference is that natural law to me isn't based on 100% pure only. There are deep sea fish that will deceptively lure their pray to their death. As of bias and desire that naturally creates human deception, so it is of creatures of nature. It is as natural to be of deception as it is to be of truth. The laws of oneness don't deceptively separate one from the other, just because one is desired to be 100% pure and the other not.

What you seem to be totally ignoring is a state of timelessness, where all of what is, is only in the present. Reason is only effective in time, not timelessness xxxxxxxx, therefore there is freewill, the will to choose which scenario one will experience, however, no matter what the scenario is, it is already written as the Koran points to.

As there are states of time and timelessness, there are states of freewill and states in the absence of freewill. You can't ignore or throw away yin in favour of yang, in other words ignore an undesired in favour of a desired 100%......

You can't also base natural law just on the material world or environment as a whole, no matter how natural the material world proves your points. You seem to be only basing your points purely on time, the material world. The material world around us doesn't prove too much of the immaterial, as it is of natural law that one can't be in the presence of the other, for one would neutralise the other. However, one is never not of the other!!

We exist in different worlds, but worlds not disconnected from or in opposition to each other, we really need to leave it at that xxxxxxxx.

OK, look at it like this in relation to freewill. Our motion is determined by our environment, this means our will is always determined by our environment, giving us a perception that we don't have freewill. Now, imagine that you are not a separate entity to your environment, no matter what the environment is. This is how Yogis, shamans and alike can influence their environment, they become aware that their environment is who they are, it is all of one entity making real choices, not separate entities influencing your choices. The external environment is seen as your internal environment as well, no matter what we desire our own separate environment to be of. I have lost count how many spiritually aware people describe their external environment being separate or different to their internal environment.  

If you perceive you are separate to your environment, that the environment you are experiencing is a separate entity to you, your choice is made up for you, giving a perception that you don't have freewill. If you think that you are a separate entity to your environment, yes, there is no freewill. 

So many so-called spiritually aware people today make this fundamental mistake, that they are a separate entity to their environment, often in line with their desires/bias. I have lost count how many people are trying to escape their present environment, or, refuse to become aware that they are their environment, even of environments they are unaware of. 

It comes down to this xxxxxxxx, you have to be aware of when to move on from a discussion and when to continue a discussion. 

You are not getting it xxxxxxxx, either not willing to get it or unable to become aware of where I am coming from. Yogis, shamans and alike are able to become apart of any environment, either that be of a past, present or future. When everything is of the present, destiny has no influence upon you, but you have an influence upon destiny, however, when you are influenced by all the laws you mention, destiny influences you. The laws you so often refer to limit consciousness to certain variables, however, a consciousness not governed by time therefore destiny is of infinite variables.  

"Can you give me an example of an action that is based on my freewill at any moment? An example like: I want coffee or tea now, do I have freewill? Do I have a choice?"

You still want me to produce material examples based, not just primarily on time but purely on time!!  Forget about time, destiny, past and future and all the so-called natural laws xxxxxxxx, and then come back to me. All that you are referring to time and time again is a consciousness purely based on time. Unless you can make reference to a consciousness beyond time based realities, this discussion is only a one sided discussion, as it always has been. I am actually showing you a great deal of patience, more than you could imagine. No yogi or shaman would continually become involved in a one sided discussion like this, especially with the same person over and over again on the exact same topics.

Do you have any idea how frustrating it is when after how long you still want me to produce examples purely based on time? I am either failing you or you are failing yourself, failing to go beyond time based reality!! As I stated before, once you can perceive past time based realities, come back to me, not before xxxxxxxx. 

Yes, I Am Still Present

Written by Mathew Naismith

I try not to perceive the environment as a whole simply through my own perspectives and perceptions, I like to also explore the environment through different perspectives and perceptions. This brings me to Soul Theory, a book written by a physicist interested in yogi teachings on the soul and how the soul doesn't have free will.   

"In relation to God, if God was to be proven to exist without a doubt, God to me still wouldn't exist even when it does. Why? Because when you are one with this God, this yogic consciousness, what then makes a God?

However, seen as many souls are not one with God, this yogic consciousness, there will always be a God, a higher consciousness than our own as there will always be a so-called lower consciousness in existence. Always has been and always will.

In relation to free will. Free will within an unlimited infinite consciousness exists, to freely experience any part of consciousness, even when to experience parts of this consciousness takes one to become unaware of consciousness as a whole, of yogic consciousness.

There are infinite possibilities because yogic, God's consciousness, is not limited to, negatives and positives, free will and non-free will, bad and good, right and wrong. However, when not of God's consciousness, yogic consciousness, we don't have free will because each reality determines our will, but, at any time we can change this reality at will. This is the infinite being of yogic consciousness.

As there is a God but there isn't, there is also free will but there isn't. To me, to say there is no God is to say there is no yogic consciousness when there is, to me anyway.

Each reality literally has infinite possibilities of non-free will but our souls can experience any possibility of any reality at any time. Is my own soul is of a determined outcome to do this? It would seem so at first but once you realise everything is of one consciousness, what I experience, all experience. It is like astral travelling, we all astral travel, it's just our minds can't remember doing this because our human minds are not conditioned to astral travelling. Just because our human minds are unable to see that we have free will, doesn't make it so but the process of thinking this makes us believe we have no free will. We have free will but we don't at the same time.

There isn’t an existence of free will but a consciousness of free will, yogic consciousness if you like. You use a soul to experience any soul life experience, a soul that has no predestined outcome, or, experience any experience that another soul is having.
All existence is predestined, however, there are infinite predestined experiences which can seem like we have free will in relation to existence.

As for yogic consciousness, it exists but it doesn’t!! In certain states, existence has no bearing nor existence but in other states it does. I know for a fact I am not just living for myself as an individual, many other souls are also living my life. One mind, many souls.

Are you correct that a consciousness of existence has no real free will? Yes, but free will exists outside of existence. Can I give an example of this while of existence? No…….

One more thing, can yogic consciousness create something like the universe, consciousness and souls? In my mind yes. I think for souls that only know of existence, calling this consciousness a God is feasible and plausible.
It is good you are still getting interest here in your work Subhendu."

"What is consciousness of freewill?"

Yogic or God's consciousness. Yogic consciousness can be of the accumulation of all consciousnesses, not just a perception of a singular souls consciousness. In other words, a yogic conscious mind can be the accumulation of numerous souls consciousness and even of all souls consciousness. A person can be living for a number of likened souls consciousnesses, numerous consciousnesses working in unison and in peace in one mind and body. Are people with multiple personalities of dissimilar personalities/consciousness experiencing different souls experiencing one mind and body?  Possession is a different thing, where one soul takes over the mind and body of a person/soul.

Imagine a yogi being able to create environments, universes, instead of being influenced by environments. Before we are born, we are influenced by the environment, now imagine influencing environments instead of being influenced by environments!! Can you see where free will lays?          

"Consciousness cannot exist without a noun, which is a soul."

The soul is motion therefore ego, what then represents an egoless consciousness that is not of motion? Just because our egos are unable to comprehend a motionless egoless consciousness, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Motionless egoless consciousness is not limited to nouns Subhendu, only the ego is.

"Note that freewill is related to actions."
No, freewill is related to the egoless consciousness therefore motion. The absence of free will is wholly of motion therefore ego.

Actually, the existence of freewill or not is highly irrelevant to the egoless self, but of course to the ego self it's everything!! It is like arguing what is truly right and wrong, truth and lies, negative and positive, black and white, it has no relevance to a true yogi/God consciousness Subhendu.

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