A Touch of Guru

Written by Mathew Naismith

Guru:

1- (Sikhism) each of the first ten leaders of the Sikh religion

2- (Buddhism) a Hindu or Buddhist religious leader and spiritual teacher

3- A recognized leader in some field or of some movement

     "a guru of genomics"

Should we truly ignore or denounce an environment that depicts a high degree of life experiences, awareness and wisdom? Imagine ignoring an environment that has thousands of years of life experiences behind it because of our prejudices. The psychological benefits of not ignoring such an environment are huge to start with. Imagine ignoring a Hindu spiritual teacher/guide because they are Hindu, even while knowing that Hinduism is the longest surviving religion/school of life. As many of us have discovered, techniques in dealing with modern day life still stands today, even though this kind of wisdom can be thousands of years old. In actuality, because these ancient teachings are still relevant today, shows they are proven.

Imagine from infancy not learning from our environment while experiencing the very same environment we are not learning from!! How many of us are doing just this these days, totally ignoring the very same environment we are experiencing as opposed to a desired environment in accordance with our own prejudices? Some of us desire to be only of a fifth dimensional reality, while showing no desire to learn from their present 3rd dimensional environment!! So when you have dismally failed in learning from one year of schooling, you go onto the next year of schooling!! It is simply not going to happen.

Gurus, no matter of what kind of Guru, is apart of our environment we can either learn from or not as of any part of our environment. Yes, spiritual Gurus can become wealthy or financially comfortable while teaching a whole history of learning of awareness, life experiences, wisdom and psychological sustainability or balance. Material wealth is simply apart of an environment a Guru teaches in and does not ignore or have disdain for because they are of spiritual virtues. One of the main differences between a spiritual Guru and spiritually aware people, is that the spiritual Gurus have no disdain of an environment or desire to be of one environment over and above another.

It is wise not to confuse a wealthy Guru to a wealthy multinational. Most often the multinational losing all of their material possessions will emotionally suffer greatly, the same can't be said of a spiritual Guru. As of all material possessions, including our own possession of our physical self/life, it is but a passing moment as all that is finite in nature will pass by. It is no big deal. How many people, including spiritually aware people, spend a lot of their energy taking care of their mind and body, in other words their greatest material possession? So it is not okay to gain material financial possessions but it is okay to gain and cherish to death our own personal material possessions, our physical body and mind!!

There is a big difference between a Guru and a non-Guru; thousands of years of life experiences, awareness and wisdom are but a few main differences, especially in regards to a spiritual Guru. I don't follow Hinduism or any other religion /philosophy religiously, but I do know of the benefits of not ignoring them because of my own personal prejudices and disdain.

You might then look at new religions or modern day science not being of thousands of years of experiences, awareness and wisdom. Modern day science derived from mysticism and philosophy, in other words thousands of years of experience, awareness and wisdom. New Age religions have also derived from thousands of years of experiences, awareness and wisdom, however, if this thousands of years of experience, awareness and wisdom are ignored because of our prejudices, we lose what our environment as a whole had to teach us. My own wisdom tells me this is a huge mistake that so many of us are presently making.

I have to say this. I take my hat off to the people who have been avid readers of my blog/blogs, I have told it how it is, not how we would desire it to be told. The desire of being negative or positive, bad or good, wrong or right, black or white, has no bearing upon you. It takes a huge amount of energy to obtain and always be in a positive frame of mind, as it takes to be negative, this is while being truly positive takes no effort at all. If being positive to you is avoiding anything remotely negative or positive, are you truly being positive? A Guru is not conditioned to a black and white mentality like this, where one frame of mind is sought above all other frames of mind at the cost of everything else. Being a Guru is simply the extrication of the conditions of a black and white mentality, a mentality that always seeks to be positive or negative within their own frame of mind. It actually takes no energy at all to be truly positive in any circumstance.

Yes, a Guru will extricate themselves from reality, a reality that is conditioned to a black and white mentality in that you have to be negative or positive, black or white. Being truly positive is like enlightenment, it is something obtained without effort or expenditure of energy. What you are doing is releasing yourself from expending so much energy, releasing yourself from expending so much energy all the times to fulfil your desires and a desired state of existence. This is a touch of Guru.  

Self-Psychoanalysis and Spirituality

Written by Mathew Naismith

At the present time I must sit back and watch a person who is not being properly clinically examined or analysed. Knowing what I know, this is very difficult to do. This eighty year plus person simply can't be bothered helping themselves live, even though there is nothing physically wrong with them to any great degree. This person is trying so hard to become ill or physically disabled. No doctor or social working has bothered asking the four key questions of psycho analysis. As a lot of our ailments come from our mind set, I find it strange that doctors (physicians) are not trained to ask the four key questions of psychology.      

The four key questions can vary in accordance to the situation, but the four key questions are fundamentally of the same attribute. In other words strive to bring about the same outcome through simular means, no matter what the circumstances are. It is important that you ask these questions in sequence for one question leads to ask another particular question, not any question by chance or luck.

Question 1; gives an outline of where to start, for instance, "Are you married or single?" You would ask this even if you knew if they were married or not as you want to set a precedence in relation to the four key questioning process.

Question 2; Depending on the answer to question one, question two is to do with starting to find the problem. A question like, "Are you happy with your partner or being single?"

Question 3; is a vital question. From question three there are a number of directions the patient can go, for instance, I am happy, while you observe the clinching of fists and looking down, or, clinching fists and looking straight at the psychoanalyst angrily. Of course if you say I am good in that area with a show of palms, yet another direction can be followed.

Question 4: After a number of other non-key questions relating to question three, question four is primarily to do with conformation of the analysis of the first three questions. This can vary greatly but in this case, "So you do have a problem with your partner?" 

Yes, spiritual gurus psychoanalyse themselves. Try to remember, psychology is simply a derivative of philosophy, an analysis of natural life. As modern day science owes its existence to both mysticism and philosophy, psychology owes its existence to philosophy. Mysticism is of course the forbearer of alchemy and today's chemistry.            

No true spiritually aware person psychoanalyses the external environment they are experiencing, they analyse their own inner environment. The four key questions are not relating to their external environment but their internal environment.

Question 1- How many spiritually aware people today wish to escape the present environment?

Question 2 - Why do they want to escape this environment?

Question 3 - Question three relates to if the environment is stated as being negative and/or toxic," So why do you think the external environment is negative and/or toxic? 

Question 4 - Relates to the conformation that they are not looking within but are instead critically judgmental of the external environment. This is while one is suppose to be going in and analysing the inner environment or self, not the outer self or environment!!

The external environment is what it is; it is how we react to this environment that makes the external environment what it is. This is like anyone who has suffered trauma from external sources; it all comes down to how they psychologically handle the trauma involved. If handled badly, they will not want to rejoin the external environment as it is too toxic to their psyche. In all self-honesty, are not a lot of western spiritually aware people suffering from trauma attributed to the external environment? The external environment is only as toxic as we perceive it is. To manifest such a mentality of negativity and toxicity, will only bring about more trauma associated with the external environment, not less.

As Jesus stated, "Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do." I am not a Christian myself but this statement is still very true today. As of the 80 year plus person who knows not what they do, hurting themselves and others around them through not being self-honest, so are a lot of other people in westernised spirituality. Try to remember; it is the western mind in all of us that doesn't like to be shown there is something not quite right with itself, even through self-analysis. Like a mentally ill person, often as illusionary inner reality will replace the external reality, how many western minds will be offended by this kind of self-honesty? If you are offended, try asking yourself the four key questions, the following should give an idea of this but please be honest with yourself.                      

https://www.psychologytoday.com/au/blog/tech-support/201402/assessing-your-emotional-intelligence-4-key-questions

https://www.verywellmind.com/what-are-the-four-major-goals-of-psychology-2795603

Human Conscious Evolution

What is needed right now is

evolving human consciousness.

Without that, science, technology,

development, everything will

go waste.

~Jaggi Vasudev~

Written by Mathew Naismith

As our ability to communicate with each other has evolved, so has our consciousness!!

Very questionable as the more we came in contact with each to communicate in our various ways; we also came into conflict with each other more. There are over 6,500 spoken languages at present which means 6,500 differences in human consciousness. We off course always create conflict to what is different to ourselves, the more differences we have, the more conflicts eventuate from these differences. Of course if we all spoke the same language, it would seem that we would find other differences to each other that would cause conflict.

Our own culture has determined what language or languages we will communicate through, it is also our culture that determines our conscious conditioning. Why is it easier for some people to learn new languages than other people? As you learn the language, you also become conscious of the culture behind the language. Of course if you are not interested in learning about the culture behind the language, it is most likely you won't remember the language in question. I have observed this occurring quite a number of times with people learning a new language.

How many wealthy people are interested in knowing about the poor? Being poor to the wealthy is like being of another culture, in actuality another species in certain circumstances. The multinationals simply see the commoners, the poorer people to themselves, as sheep or cattle, to be used and abused at will. They are simply seen as another species by the wealthy. How many New Age spiritually aware people look at our present human consciousness as being of a different species than their own species? They are of a positive consciousness, all else from this is of a negative/toxic consciousness. Do not a lot of atheists/materialists see religious/spiritual people as another species/culture to their own and visa-versa? To be self-honest here, of course they do, even while speaking the same language but a language of conscious dissimilarities.

You see, even while speaking the same language there is a difference of cultural values and understandings.

Can you see what is occurring here? It is not the differences in our languages that is causing us to conflict with each other, it is the unwillingness to learn about the culture behind the language. Because I have experienced number of interactions with people from India, I found the Indian people, at most, have the willingness to learn about the culture behind the language they are learning to communicate in. How many wealthy people want to learn about the poor man's culture? How many New Age spiritual people want to learn about the very same culture they have critically judged negative/toxic? And a lot of New Age spiritually people think they are the new evolved consciousness, this is while critically separating one consciousness from another!!

When you sit back and observe the differences in consciousness therefore culture in the absence of bias or disdain, you start to see the big picture. Observing the big picture simply means the observation of as many cultures as plausible or possible, no matter of the linguistic disparities.

This is the new conscious change, bypassing the language barriers and conflicts to focus on the culture. It is of course a lot easier these days to bypass language barriers. Try to remember, the language used was created from the culture we follow, how different did we find the language associated with the computer age/culture? It is a different language because it is a different cultural change. Simply, the computer age, as of the numerous ages the human species has experienced, has its own language and consciousness. How many languages or ways to express oneself was around during the age of the Neanderthals? This relates to how many cultures were evident during that age.

What I am saying is that our numerous cultures have created various and numerous languages, a sign that human consciousness was evolving, however, instead of these differences presently being a sign of an evolving consciousness, we see a regression of consciousness. Conflict is always a sign of a regressive consciousness no mater how technologically we have advance through conflict. Yes, a lot of our technological advancements have been through wars and conflicts, a sign that a consciousness is in regression in my mind.

The new conscious change isn't to follow the same old consciousness mentality of one against the other, like with positive against negative, wealthy against poor or spiritual people against all else. It is the union of all of what is, not what we would, in accordance with our own culture, desire it to be. To be self- honest here, we all, as well as myself, follow a particular culture, at no time, within my own consciousness, does this mean all other cultures are irrelevant or something to be disdained or avoided because it is negative. Yes, a certain culture will appear, a culture that accepts all cultures to be worthy within their own right for without our differences, human consciousness would have stagnated or simply withered away.

By all means, embrace our differences.

In regards to the following, I simply liked what was stated, at no time am I promoting this particular kind of schooling. 

http://www.albertojosevarela.com/en/understanding-human-devolution-making-progress-growing-or-winning-is-not-evolving-what-are-the-signs-of-evolution-of-consciousness/

The Psychology of Mythology

Psychology is ultimately

mythology, the study of

the stories of the soul. 

 ~James Hillman~   

Written by Mathew Naismith

Mythology is about how we react and think within a world or environment, of course how we react and think in relation to an environment, comes down to our own psychology. Our own psychology simply determines the way we think, this is anything from science to religion or materialism to spirituality, etc. Of course one’s own psychology can be influenced by a number of different variables such as the different variables of science to religion for example. Often we judge a variable as mythology through one or two other variables such as science and materialistic ideologies. To me, it is a huge mistake to judge one variable by another variable, especially if we psychologically see another variable as an opposing variable. I cannot see any sustainable viable logical reasoning in this kind of bias by the psyche.

The psychology of mythology is all to do with good against evil, the difference to night and day, male and female interactions, how the weather determines our mood, moral and immoral behaviour, life and death etc. Mythology is to do with all of what life is and how we interact within this environment. Anyone who has conducted any kind of research on mythology impartially, realises that mythology isn’t simply about story telling as the following will clearly show.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/au/blog/cui-bono/201704/what-mythology-reveals-about-the-mind

Extract: Many years after the course was over, I would learn why. Apparently, narratives (stories) represent a particular way of constructing knowledge that comes naturally to us.

One writer has even gone so far as saying "Remembering is narrative; narrative is memory."

Research indicates that remembering a bunch of new, unrelated elements is difficult. But if the elements are part of a structured story, they are more easily remembered. That’s just the way the mind works. Research also indicates that memory is not a literal replaying of experienced events, like replaying a recorded video. Rather, it is a reconstruction of significant elements in a way that makes sense to us. We remember the past by making up stories in which the events relate to each other in a meaningful way.

My conception of science has changed over the years, partly because of my experience in my mythology course. I used to think that science was a way of establishing with certainty facts about the world, what is absolutely true beyond any doubt. As I read more about science and began to do science myself, I came to realize that in science we often attempt to model reality rather than establish indubitable facts. Scientific knowledge claims are always tentative and subject to revision. We strive for better models of reality, not just by looking for more facts, but by improving our insight and vision. A good scientific model is not one that attempts to capture every factual detail about reality, but is able to identify key variables that allow some accuracy in making predictions about the world. Just like a good myth provides enough insight about the world to help us navigate life's journey.

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Being variable in thought is to do with diversity or difference. What if we only looked at our environments scientifically or religiously, viewing our world through one or two variables only? Our whole reality is built upon one bias or another which is anything but of self-honesty. Of course there are ideologies that do incorporate various variables, even supposed opposing variables such as science and religion. In a reality conditioned to self-deception and self-dishonesty, any variable, such as isms and ideologies, too variable in thought are not going to be very popular. How popular are people like me today!!

How many of us looked and look upon mythology as something irrelevant in the modern age or have disdain for mythology period due to our own biases and self-dishonesties? This is while totally ignoring the obvious psychological importance of mythology. Is human consciousness evolving by not being diverse and different in thought? It is obvious, to consciously evolve we must be diverse in our thinking but many of us are doing quite the opposite at present. Of course psychology is only one variable that observes mythology as being worthy of consideration.

If you are interested in researching this further, the following should assist in this. Remember, like any variable, they all only answer one part of an answer as no variable on it's own has the answers to everything, only one part of the answer.                         

https://ejop.psychopen.eu/article/view/351/255

https://theartofenchantment.net/2016/09/08/the-psychology-of-mythology-or-why-the-otherworld-is-just-as-real-as-this-one/

Self-Honesty

Written by Mathew Naismith

Most often our past determines our future and most often our past, especially when related to trauma in some way, to something we desire to stay unaware of, isn't something we desire to be self-honest with. So what do we do? We only live within the present while saying the past and future are irrelevant or an illusion. This is while time is the predominant influence in our everyday life at present!! See how dishonest we can be to ourselves? Time of course represents a past, present and future, a state of union instead of separation, especially the separation of one energy source from another to escape facing our traumas personally and collectively.

It is common practice for a consciousness in trauma, either personally or collectively, to use every means possible to escape facing trauma. Of course to do this, we must turn away from being of self-honesty and become dishonest with ourselves, and of course everybody else.             

https://www.psychologytoday.com/au/blog/finding-true-refuge/201703/radical-self-honesty

Extract: Throughout history, deception has been an effective survival strategy. Yet, like all primitive survival strategies, when deception becomes habitual and is not directly about survival, it prevents us from continuing growth. For each of us, to the degree that we are not real with ourselves or that we withhold important truths from others, we just cannot keep evolving.

I wrote the following reply to a query in relation to my last post, "Assisting a Consciousness in Trauma".  

Basically, what you are doing is guiding them instead of pushing them towards a goal.

My father was trained to do this as a foreman. I tend to do this myself, my downfall is I also express self-honesty, it is funny how this psychologically freaks people out. Actually, when it does freak people out, their reactions tell me a lot about them. It is not that people react, it is how they react and what they react to. 

Our consciousness collectively isn't conditioned to being self-honest. How many of us don't look at what our own country/culture has done and is doing to others in the world, but we will point the finger at other cultures. Bringing a person out of the affects of trauma takes one to become gradually self-honest, not an easy thing to face, especially when we are conditioned to be self-dishonest with ourselves.

I have someone at present under my wing that is not good physically and mentally, the fits, blackouts and the scaring to the brain certainly don't help. I am slowly coaxing (guiding) them to be self-honest without causing more anxiety attacks.

This has done it, I am going to right up something about self-honesty. 

Spiritually, how dare I turn to science and psychology for the answers, this is while our minds are predominantly influenced psychology. On the other hand, how dare I turn to spirituality for the answers, even though science has proven a number of spiritual practices to be highly beneficial to us!! From atheism/materialism to spirituality/religion, dishonesty predominantly influences our lives, this is instead of self-honesty.

The article I have inserted is worth reading through, but only if you are a self-honest atheist/materialist or spiritual/religious, etc, person. If you are not into self-honesty, the article supplied will only represent a threat to your psyche and be promptly denounced in some way. Yes, by all means go into protective state of mind but do this honestly. All that dishonesty will create, either personally or collectively, is more of the same trauma, if not to you someone else.

Yes, I can get into a conscious state of timelessness, where there is no past or future, only the present moment, a state perceived by my ego to be of utter bliss.  At no time is this separate to time where a past and future exist. Of course when a consciousness experiences time, a past and future, trauma is sure to exist as time is of cycles and endless changes. Spirituality is about how you cope with the associated trauma in relation to time, not how you try to escape from time and times association with trauma. I could not think of a higher level of fear and self-deceptiveness, which spiritually is suppose to be not about, or am I simply being naive here?

A number of people might relate better to the following article. 

https://medium.com/@zaiderrr/why-you-should-practice-brutal-self-honesty-3b6088e05346

Extract: The topic of brutal self-honesty is consciously looked upon as worthy of pursuing but the majority of people don’t have the emotional maturity to follow through with such a concept.

Brutal self-honesty requires hard, emotional labor. It requires the individual to engage with the following:

Ego Dissolution

The ego wants you to stay unconscious. It doesn’t want you to be brutally honest with yourself because that means that the ego must change and change is not what it wants —comfort is what the ego wants.

Assisting a Consciousness in Trauma

Written by Mathew Naismith

A psychotherapist/psychiatrist will place a patient into a less destructive mental state/reality by creating a less destructive reality, a less destructive illusion. This allows the patient to move from a destructive reality to a more constructive reality/illusion. Yes, delusions/illusions have there place within humanity. 

Psychotherapists/psychiatrists will not try to bring a patient back to reality straight up, for it is most likely that the real reality caused trauma to the person in the first place. The last thing you want to do is cause more trauma but at the same time gradually bring the person back to the real reality that caused them trauma. As you could imagine, this can take some time to do as bringing a person back to real reality is accomplished through various stages.

As I observe materialists/atheists and spiritually aware people battling it out with each other for supremacy, I have myself observed a certain amount of trauma on a collective scale. As a lot of people have concurred, the human collective consciousness is mentally strained through centuries of trauma/conflict. The collective human consciousness is conditioned to suffering thus creating further and further trauma. As soon as we are born, we are immediately conditioned to being in trauma on a collective scale, this is instead of being conditioned to a peaceful existence.

Spiritually aware people are obviously traumatised by our present reality, our present consciousness, this is too obvious as their own actions depict. As of a mentally ill patient who is traumatised by our present reality and go into a protective state of mind, an illusionary state of mind/reality, so can a collective group of people in trauma. How many soldiers suffer with the same mental conditions? Being traumatised by our present reality is no different collectively.

What do a lot of spiritually aware people do? They escape the present reality by creating their own reality. There are a lot of spiritually aware people who have created another reality for themselves to save themselves from further trauma, this is highly psychologically/spiritually constructive to the collective consciousness. However, it is not constructive to the collective consciousness when, while existing in the present reality, we totally ignore everything we deem to be negative, or, totally ignore everything that creates more traumas for ourselves personally. This is like a mentally ill person creating a reality that is highly destructive, either to themselves and/or everybody else. Simply staying ignorant to what has caused the trauma in the first place, is simply not going to help the collective consciousness, in actuality quite the opposite as is being presently proven.

As for materialists and atheists, what is their trauma?  The trauma of there possibly being more than what they can perceive making their own ideologies and beliefs illusionary and deceitful. Also, the trauma of religion taking over again thus inflicting more trauma on the rest of the world. I don't think we would have been any better off if we where all atheists or materialists from the word go, in actuality history tells us we could have been worse off.     

A psychotherapist/psychiatrist will bring a mentally ill person back to real reality through stages, eventually allowing the patient to hopefully exist within the present reality, not a made up reality. So many spiritually aware people have done just this through different and various spiritual techniques, brought themselves back to the present reality without the feeling of being traumatised by the present reality. Yes of course, as a lot of spiritually aware people believe, everything physical and of the ego is an illusion!! As soon as someone expresses themselves in this way, I know where they are coming from.

If the universe was created by a far more aware and wiser consciousness than our own human consciousness, what the universe represents is a reflection of a consciousness. Just because the universe and everything within the universe is a reflection of another consciousness, doesn't make the universe and everything within the universe an illusion, especially considering the trauma our present reality creates for us. Any consciousness in trauma will enter into any illusionary state to escape trauma, even and probably especially at the cost of the present reality. It is fine entering into an illusionary state of reality/mind to protect ourselves from further trauma, but it is highly harmful to the collective consciousness when done at the cost of all else.

An extreme reaction to trauma is to ignore what has caused the trauma by any means. Excessive expressions of positivity and creating illusions that everything that causes us trauma is an illusion, is of the same mentality of a mentally ill person in trauma, a person trying to escape their present reality, their present state of mind. A mentally balanced approach that is often orchestrated in psychotherapy, is to not put yourself into a state of mind of extreme reaction to trauma, but into a state of mind that is more passive and constructive and less illusionary and extreme in nature. The universe is simply a reflection of a far more aware and wiser consciousness, not simply and categorically an illusion or negative/toxic, point blank.

Think of this in relation to creating your own illusion. How many sports people put themselves into a state of mind that they are superhuman? In ancient battles, often both sides put themselves into a mental state of being superhuman like. Creating an illusion is fine, it is how we create an illusion that really matters.       

I really hope this helps some people, even though what I have written here is of my own mind.       

The Supernatural!!

Written by Mathew Naismith

I am not seeking truth, all I am simply doing is seeking honesty, especially self-honesty in others and myself. Truth is limited to what we are aware of, honesty has no such limitations, unless we impose limitations on honesty through our ideologies and isms. The following post is simply about my own self-honesty, as I suppose all my posts have been about to date.  

Supernatural: Once you become truly at one with God, what then makes a God? So once you are truly of supernatural powers, what then defines supernatural, what higher power is then not natural to you? So supernatural comes down to this, if it is not natural to you at this point, even of the point of human existence as a whole, it is classed as being supernatural!! Don't' get me wrong, it is quite understandable to someone like me that we perceive what is and isn't supernatural, I however don't myself agree with this perception as it is merely a perception created by our own antiquated state of mind, a mind that still holds onto the mentality of throwing rocks (missiles) and stones (bombs) at each other.

It is highly understandable that a mentality that basically still throws rocks and stones at each other after thousands of years of existence, will indeed still see itself as being inferior to some higher order. And why not, considering that our mentality hasn't evolved that much over thousands of years? When you consider a species that hasn't evolved that much but have created so much, what would have a species created that did mentally evolve? To a species as our own, probably something supernatural, mainly because we are not conditioned to this kind of conscious existence and understanding.

I need to at the point define what supernatural is.           

Supernatural: Not existing in nature or subject to explanation according to natural laws; not physical or material

Nature: The essential qualities or characteristics by which something is recognized.

"it is the nature of fire to burn"; "the true nature of jealousy"

Natural law; an observable law relating to natural phenomena.

Wikipedia:

Natural law (Latin: ius naturale, lex naturalis) is a philosophy asserting that certain rights are inherent by virtue of human nature, endowed by nature—traditionally by God or a transcendent source—and that these can be understood universally through human reason. As determined by nature, the law of nature is implied to be objective and universal;^[1] it exists independently of human understanding, and of the positive law of a given state, political order, legislature or society at large.

So supernatural is something that doesn't exist in nature or is not physical or material. So God creating this universe was of the supernatural, even though scientists today are aware in how to create a universe, even at the stage of awareness we are at!!

I don't look at God or any other consciousness that might have created this universe as being supernatural. To me, it is highly natural for a far more aware and wiser consciousness than our own to create a universe, even if we are unable to perceive such a consciousness at present existing. You must understand, for example, just because penicillin didn't exist before it was discovered, didn't mean it wasn't going to be discovered, or, wasn't already discovered in some other part of the universe. Just because we are presently unaware of something, doesn't mean it doesn't exist, of course it doesn't mean it does either!!

So supernatural is about a higher force than our own, even of reasoning, that doesn't exist in nature, even though we are of nature and we perceive that supernatural forces exist!! So if a consciousness did create this universe that we are unable to see or is non-psychical to our present understanding, this force is not of nature? To someone like me it is more of nature, for it is natural for a far more aware and wiser consciousness to create, especially a universe. Keep in mind, natural means, "In accordance with nature; relating to or concerning nature." What we perceive to be of physical reality, a far more aware and wiser consciousness might perceive differently to what human consciousness perceives. This is the same with what is and isn't of nature and what is and isn't supernatural......