To Change From Within

Written by Mathew Naismith

"The world can only change from within". ~ Eckhart Tolle

"Be the change that you wish to see in the world". ~ Mahatma Gandhi

What does it mean to change from within? Is it to influence change within our personal individual selves or is it to change within human existence? Human existence is of us as is the entire universe. Its important here not to separate yourself as being a separate entity to all else, in turn dividing energy into separate individual parts. In my mind, any division of energy, especially into numerous different entities, is an abuse of energy. Influencing change from within can only be accomplished if we are a part of what we are trying to influence change upon.

Can change be successfully implemented if we divide everything up into negatives and positives, good and bad, wrong and right, black and white, light and dark, etc? No, because you have now separated yourself from what you wish to influence change upon from within. With this kind of abuse of energy there is no within. Yes, you have your own separate divided self to change from within but while being separate to what you really want to influence change upon. You cannot change the world if you are still separate to that world, all changes must be from within that world, not separate to that world. Of course many people desire to scrap this world/reality for a more positive world of love and light. You are simply not scrapping anything within this kind of mentality of separation and division. With this mentality of separation and division, you are certainly not trying to change from within but from outside to what you are tying to change.

To change from within entails us to change within the environment we wish to change. You have to be a part of what you want to change, not separate to it. Is changing within the personal individual self really a change from within, when we have or are trying to separate ourselves from the world we are within? In truth, this kind of abuse of energy is simply changing your own world, which isn't going to change the world from within because you are no longer within that world. Is being within your own separate individual self truly of an inner self? Simply, there is no separate individual self that we need to change from within, all of existence is the self which, if you like it or not, is a part of you. To continually separate yourself from the rest of the existence you desire not to be a part of isn't changing from within, it's simply abuse of energy through separation and division to only serve the individual self.

I recently came a cross an article where aliens, different forms of energy, told a large group of children about our abuse of energy. I will insert this article latter on. The abuse of energy was not just to do with our natural resources but our abusive use of mental projections upon each other. An example, a true sense of love and light doesn't separate itself from all other energy forms; it certainly doesn't ostracise and banish anything not of its own energy. Within this mentality, a true sense of love and light is found in any reality or world. A true sense of love and light is not an energy form that separates its own energy from any other energy. Today's perception of love and light for a lot of people is all about separation and division, simply, an abuse of energy to serve the individual only. You simply cannot change from which you have separated yourself from in any way, especially when you have the perception you are not within what you are trying to influence. If there is any sense of separation or division, you are not within.

How many people think that love and light is a positive? A true sense of love and light is actually neutral, this is why some people are able to experience a true sense of unconditional love in this state. There are no conditions created by perceptions of positive or negative, black and white. Any form of division and separation is an abuse of energy. Look at how black people were abused because black was simply referred to as a negative by white people. Actually, any other skin colour than white was and still is often perceived to be negative in some way by some people, this is in opposition to white people representing a positive. Separation, division and abuse creates by negative and positive perceptions!!

If you really want to influence the rest of the world, do it from within what you are trying to influence and stay away from anything that promotes separation and division. You cannot change what you critically judge negative in any sense, not in harmony anyway. This means to influence change upon the world, one must truly do it from within this world, this means being a part of what you are trying to change. At no time have disdain for what you are trying to change in any sense, all this mentality will create is even more separation and division, not less. You will find once you become neutral within your mentality, working within what you are trying to change will come so easy to you.

People like me interact with all energy to one degree or another, we simply don't ostracise and critically judge what isn't of ourselves. Yes, at times one must let go of certain energies that are on another journey to yourself but do it without separation and division created by positive and negative perceptions. Remember, a true sense of love and light is not of separation and division, in actuality quite the opposite. It's simply a beautiful conscious state of neutrality which can also lead to experiencing the zone more often.

A number of years ago I wrote about how reincarnation is about one life lived, not many lives lived. Each different segment to this life is simply a journey to be experienced, like a stage play where you have one play but a number of acts that make up a play. Looking from a human perspective, there are many lives lived. Looking from the soul perspective, there is only one life lived. The point is, it would seem I am not conditioned to separating and dividing everything into separate divided segments. In saying this, depending on the environment I am in at the time, I still express perceptions of negatives and positives but I am aware of this kind of abuse of energy. This is important; avoid looking at the abuse of energy as something negative or bad for obvious reasons. I am also aware that most people are conditioned to express perceptions of negatives and positives (separatism) most of the time in their lives.

As the following article shows, other entities from other places within the universe are saying the same thing I am, be aware of how you use and abuse energy in every sense.

http://earthmysterynews.com/2016/06/21/zimbabwe-ufo-child-conactee-speaks-publicly-for-the-1st-time/#page-3         

Unconditional Love

Written by Mathew Naismith

I thought I would create a few videos so that my readers are able to put a persona behind what I write, also, it would seem the visual effect is more preferable these days. 

In brief; the basis and makeup of unconditional love is of no conditions, basically, the main attribute of unconditional love is the absence of conditions. This means a state or an awareness of a true form of unconditional love is of the absence of positive and negative, good and bad, light and dark, wrong and right, black and white, there is simply no perception of separation.

Most often unconditional love is associated or even attributed to love and light. There seems to be a misperception here, the ideology of love and light has huge amounts of conditions, being of or limited to the light and positive thinking are but a few conditions the ideology of love and light has. Another primary condition of love and light is avoiding or separating oneself from anything deemed negative.

People like me today are now deemed/judged negative and even toxic, only because we tell the truth in what is obvious. Within my 54 years, the obvious truth has become negative; this is in favour of believing love and light is associated with unconditional love when love and light obviously has huge amounts of conditions attached to this kind of ideology today.

A true sense of love and light is of unconditional love but only if unconditional love is not limited to conditions. 

To What Is What

Written by Mathew Naismith

Before I continue, the above title is what is known as a prepositional phrase in English, for example of this, in Japanese, house from instead of, from the house, and in Finnish, house.from instead of, from the house. I tend to use both prepositions and postpositions, being that the English language is predominantly made up of prepositions, it's no wonder people like me are often misunderstood.      

Like any ideology, the ideology of love and light has its place; it is what it is because of its environment, without this environment it simply couldn't exist. This is known as a postposition as the example of Japanese and Finnish show above. The house, the environment, which created love and light, comes first instead of love and light coming first.

What we are talking about here is a mentality of postposition instead of a mentality of what is known as prepositions. A consciousness conditioned to the English language is obviously going to have a mentality of prepositions; love and light have always existed way before what created it, all that is negative/toxic to love and light. In actuality one creates the other; this is a postpositional and prepositional view/mentality. If you like, a balance of yin and yang, negative and positive, one not being above the other or less worthy than the other.

When I try to assist people into the ideology of love and light to become less imbalanced within their negatives and positive, I am often scorned. The reasons for this to do with the mentality of being prepositional, people like me are negative /toxic towards love and light. Looking at this in a postpositional and prepositional way, this is clearly not the case.

The truth can't be found in one way or the other, it takes all to see the truth as it truly is, not what we desire the truth to be in either one or the other. The point is, if today's love and light was of prepositions and postpositions, love and light could exist in any reality, not just within its own reality, it's simply not doing this at this stage. In actuality it's doing quite the opposite, it's denouncing anything not of it's own as negative/toxic.

In the case of today's ideological concepts of light and love, the house from is simply wrong (negative) when in actuality that is not the case at all, not in truth and/or truth in not.                

Overcoming a Hostile Environment

Written by Mathew Naismith

The universe and our present reality is naturally hostile, this is its natural state. We might think a pristine environment like a rain forest isn't hostile, try existing in this kind of environment without some kind of protection. The stars are beautiful, try existing outside the Earths atmosphere without some kind of protection, in saying this; nothing is hostile to the spirit, the non-physical self.

If you could condition your mind to non-physicality void of crutches and fixations, all that is left is pure spirit, put in another way, pure energy. It's this state that is known as the shining, a state void of crutches and fixations. Look at it this way, what is negative and positive in the absence of crutches and fixations? Materialism, religion, new age spirituality, atheism and so forth, are created crutches and fixations in retaliation to other crutches and fixations. Yes, even love and light can be and often is a crutch and fixation as it's in retaliation to a hostile environment, however, a true sense of love and light is shining as it's not in retaliation to anything.

How fearful are the people of love and light to the questioning of their love and light? Also, everything else other than what is judged as love and light becomes negative, this is why there are more perceived negatives in today's new age spirituality than ever, not less. Considering that the spirit has no crutches and fixations, therefore no sense of what is and isn't negative or positive, how much closer is today's new age spirituality to the spirit?   

It's our crutches and fixations that create an even more hostile environment within a natural hostile environment. How hostile are materialists to a true sense spirit? Seen as materialism is based on and totally relies on crutches and fixations to exist, it's no wonder materialists are afraid of the spirit, a state void of crutches and fixations!!

Why do a lot of us only shine now an again and not all the time, considering that the shining is different to feeling simply euphoric? The answer is crutches and fixations which are created through fear, a state of insecurity, however, there is nothing wrong or negative to feeling fear or insecure, in turn, attaching ourselves and creating crutches and fixation within an environment that is naturally hostile. Try going into a forest full of snakes and panthers and not being respectively fearful. In this case fear becomes awareness of a danger. Yes, fear is also another kind of awareness but an awareness void of the spirit.

Now try going into the same forest shining, of pure spirit, there is simply no fear for there is no crutch or fixation to physicality, the spirit becomes one with all. However, this state does not mean that a fearful state is negative or wrong, it just simply means existing and experiencing a state void of the spirit. A state of fear is but a different state of awareness but its still awareness. This is very much like having a crutch and fixation to new age spirituality or materialism, there is nothing wrong or negative within this kind of awareness, it's just simply not of the pure spirit.

I thought I would insert a couple of replies of mine to a good internet friend of mine.

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My Reply

Many blessings to you and yours as well Mike.

I am thinking of writing further on this, it's just got to come to me though.

The universe is highly chaotic and hostile, in actuality most of the physical realm is hostile to human beings, however, it's the spiritual realm that isn't chaotic and hostile.

I think what has occurred is that we have turned everything spiritual into everything physical. Religion, new age spirituality and materialism, for example, are all based on the physical. God becomes a physical figure of man. Light and love is the opposite of chaos, hostility, negativity. Materialism speaks for itself. It's all to do with euphoric pleasures, if it feels good it must be good. Giving birth doesn't feel good physically but emotionally or even spiritually it feels good!! 

We exist in a hostile environment that is naturally hostile, all we need to do is balance out this hostility with the spiritual, or, a balanced psyche.  The psyche is non-physical therefore spiritual in my mind.

My Reply

Do you mean people like you and I or humans as a whole Mike?

Human consciousness isn't infallible, it's most often conditioned to certain conditioning, spiritual consciousness however is infallible as it has nothing to be conditioned to.

Human consciousness on it's own is always going to be in the dark however in conjunction with the spirit, it's infallible to one extent or another.

The funny thing about light, the truth, is it's blinding to all else conditioned to the dark, untruths, therefore a negative!!

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An important point to remember and to specifically accept, we exist in an environment that is naturally hostile, violent and destructive at times, the spirit accepts this and has no desire to change this very natural state. However, the non-spirit trying to become the spirit always desires to change this state, it's simply apart of the process to become the spirit. It's an awareness of what is hindering the process of becoming the spirit within a hostile environment, the trick is, don't become too fixated to one part of the process, all this does is continue the cycle of hostility thus creating more negativity, not less negativity. Simply accept it as a hostile environment, and move on, evolve, it's this simple.        

What Are We Manifesting?

Written by Mathew Naismith

To feel good about oneself and the environment, one must first desist in feeling bad about someone else's self and their environment, otherwise all we would be doing is creating something that feels good on the back of what also feels bad. Look at it this way, if to be exceptionally positive takes an exceptional negative, wouldn't it be better if we didn't have to express an exceptional positive to denounce, overcome or escape from an exceptional negative in the first place? One begets the other; basically, one extreme creates an opposing extreme. Do we really want to create another reality built upon or created from it's opposite? 

So what kind of ideological concepts has our present reality created?

Firstly, I personally don't think it's wise to build or create realities based on their opposing opposites if we really want peace and love on Earth. Basing peace and love on it's opposite is only going to continue the trend of opposing energy forces, basically creating realities that one can't exist without the other or on the back of the other.

Many times have I come across people who have utter disdain for this reality, in turn, they have a desire to manifest a complete opposite of what they have disdain for. Is it wise to create another reality based on it's opposite, in other words create a reality based on conflict and critical judgment? What would our present conflictive realities consciousness want you to do? Be in conflict with it to continue the trend and create yet another reality based on conflict and critical judgment.

So opposing our present conflictive reality is doing exactly what this kind of reality creates, realities primarily based on conflict. Yes, for example, the ideological concepts of light and love don't seem to be within themselves conflictive, even though this kind of ideology was created on the back of a conflictive conscious reality. However, take this kind of energy out of it's protective comforting domain, it's own reality, it fails dismally. Only within it's own domain, within it's own energy, can the ideological concepts of light and love prevail. It's exactly like taking a fish out of the water, it's reality, and put the fish in it's opposing reality, it fails dismally to exist out of the water, it's reality.

Manifesting = Provide evidence for; stand as proof of; show by one's behaviour, attitude, or external attributes or reveal its presence or make an appearance. 

Ideology = An orientation that characterizes the thinking of a group or nation or an imaginary or visionary theorization.

So can we create a reality of light and love without a reality being created on the back of a conflictive reality?

Light simply means awareness and love acceptance of all of what is for what it is, this of course includes realities and the consciousness behind the creation of these realities. It's like a mother loving their child no matter what they do. Because these kinds of ideological concepts are based on disdain and an opposing energy source, it is obvious that ideological concepts, like today's light and love, is not based on awareness or a true sense of love.

A true sense of light and love thrives just as much out of it's own reality as it does in it's own reality, in certain circumstances even more because of the need of this kind of energy source within certain realities or energy flows. A mother/father can be at their best in dire times, way out of their comfort zone, we as a whole are no different. Another good example is nurses/doctors; they are at their best when out of their comfort zone, their normal reality, because that is where they are most needed. People like me are always out of our comfort zone, our own clicky (exclusive) groups and energy fields/realities, where we are most needed. 

Do we really need to get out of our comfort zone, our own reality, to make a difference?

We often believe by staying within our own exclusive group, our own energy field or safe zone, that we can make a difference through manifesting our own energy within our own group or even our own personal domain/reality and make a huge difference. I think if Mother Teresa and Florence Nightingale, for example, stayed within their own exclusive group or energy field/reality, they couldn't have made the difference they did; we at a personal and collective level are no different. What about Gandhi and Nelson Mandela and so on it goes. On a personal level, it would have been best for these people to stay within their own exclusive groups and within their own safe zone on a personal level, they instead saw a need to make real changes way outside their own comfort zone.

You simply cannot manifest a reality or influence a collective consciousness to change it's present reality while within your own comfort zone, your own exclusive group, change has always been manifested while within other energy flows. The reason for this is simple, a group opposing another group while within it's own reality will always be opposed, however, once within an opposing group to your own energy field, this is where one can make the biggest difference, the biggest manifestation.

There is one trick to changing what is within itself though, never demean or have disdain for what you are trying to influence while within that energy field, all this will change is your own energy field. A lot of people today are making this mistake in my mind, trying to change one group manifestation with their own group manifestation while in disdain of the group manifestation they are trying to change. Did Nelson Mandela try to change the colour of white people while at the same time having disdain for white people? All that Nelson Mandela wanted to change is the reality that white South Africans manifested from within. If Nelson Mandela had a huge amount of disdain for white people, instead of only seeing a need for change of what white people had manifested, he simply wouldn't have changed a thing.                  

Infinite and Finite Ideologies /Philosophies

Written by Mathew Naismith

Before considering following an ideology and or philosophy consider this, which one's are limiting and which one aren't. A good example of this is the ego limiting or liberating       physically and through it's ideologies and /or philosophies. Is one set of ideologies and /or philosophies stifling/limiting to all other ideologies and /or philosophies within an ideology/philosophy?

Can an ideology/philosophy be infinite in nature if it has limits within it's ideologies and philosophies? The answer of course is no as all limitations are of the finite and not of the infinite, infinite simply refers to which that is limitless where's finite refers to which that is limited. Do we want to be governed by what is finite or infinite in nature? Considering that human consciousness is limited and that divine consciousness is limitless, we need to make a choice which one we want or even need to be governed by.

Is it wise to be governed entirely by an ideology/philosophy that is infinite in nature while existing in an existence that is governed by finite consciousness?

Infinite consciousness simply means there are no limitations within the expressions of this consciousness; this consciousness therefore is able to be expressed in a finite existence. However, finite consciousness is unable to be expressed within an infinite consciousness because of it's limitations. You simply can't limit yourself to human perspectives within divine consciousness because divine consciousness is divine because it's unlimited (infinite) nature.

I should say when I talk about a divine consciousness, I am talking about a consciousness that is unlimited and infinite in nature, in actuality, divine consciousness is able to create anything and everything because it's not limited.

The following are my replies to other people on a forum, life can be limiting or limitless, this is our choice.

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I don't faze you do I I Spirit 3, I respect this; you simply just go with the flow within the present, in my mind quite commendable.

Yes, I suppose so, is love and light a creation from it's opposite making the opposite just as worthy as love and light or visa-versa.  I suppose motion works like this, action reaction, push and pull, cause and effect. I was speaking with a Malaysian bloke for some time on and off, he often mentioned the natural flow of the  push and pull effect of motion, my western mind had a hard time comprehending where he was coming from at times but in all it made sense to me.  He basically said all we need to do is get off the treadmill for all motion creates delusions to one extent or another. 

I simply concur, everything is of and comes from spirit/consciousness.

You know how I bag/acknowledge the ways of a black and white mentality, I too express this because how is the ego suppose to become aware if it's not put in a way that the ego can comprehend and understand?  Motion is often of black and white for instance, light and dark dominating each other, however, to get off the treadmill one has to learn the ways of the black and white mentality of the ego, the paradox is, the ego needs a black and white comprehension to do this, to start with, but know when to let go of this black and white mentality as well.

It's indeed all natural but I can see that it might not seem that way as well.

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Do we need to plan therefore control?  I think the ego needs to plan where our divine self doesn't, what is there to plan when you are everything and are aware of everything?

In my mind, we need to be caring thoughtful of the ego without being controlling, I often think of the ego as my child that needs my loving attention to become aware and adult in it's motions, otherwise it's going to be and act in a self-cantered way like a spoilt brat. I think our present reality shows this.

You don't have to be controlling towards your child, just simply guiding the child through simple awareness. Guiding isn't controlling, it's leading by example, going with the flow of awareness rather than going against the flow of awareness. Control is set to certain specifics of awareness, it's only of the awareness of what can be controlled by the ego, all else is usually discarded or ignored.

The thing with love and light is it's apart of the process that was created by the process itself, the process of the ego being in control. Think of it as a treadmill, the control of the treadmill keeps us in motion but when we get off the treadmill; are we still controlled by the treadmill? We simply got off the process of control. Getting off from one life process creating another life process is the same as getting off from the control of the treadmill; we simply stopped the ego controlling us thus creating yet another process and on it goes.

I think treating the process of love and light as a be and end all is a huge mistake as it's still apart of the process of control. I have spoken to a number of Eastern minded people on this, they all say all we need to do is release ourselves from this control, from this process, to be our whole self. Let's be honest, love and light is still about taking control rather than releasing it. I think the Western mind has a huge problem in comprehending this; it's probably why so many Western minded people are upset with me in what I write, I'm simply seen as a threat to the process of control. 

My stepdaughter Karla has won three world titles in a row now; it's a world record in women's IPSC shooting. We guided Karla rather than controlled Karla.       

I Simply Just Don't Get It!!

Written by Mathew Naismith

If you are not into conflict resolution or learning through and from conflicts, it is unlikely you will like this post.

This post once again pertains to a forum I am presently involved with. In respect, I have only inserted my responses to other people that pertain to a particular post of mine that at this point has over 407 views. It's not big number of views but it does show that a number of people are interested in the topics mentioned in this post.  I replaced names with four ex.'s (XXXX).

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I am so ignorant sometimes.

I presumed that everyone into spirituality would comprehend and understand how a consciousness void of black and white mentality would perceive everything. There is only one so how would one offend or be offensive? To be offended or offensive takes one to be good (positive) and the other bad (negative). My ego isn't offended by XXXX motions/reactions here but it is annoyed and worried at her persistence to push her own black and white mentality upon me. 

A black and white mentality separates everything from negative to positive, high to low and so on; a consciousness void of a black and white mentality simply doesn't perceive like this, all that is observed is motion of one kind or another.  I don't have a bias or a desire of something higher or lower, the strange thing is I think I never truly did. 

I ignorantly thought everyone would comprehend and understand how this kind of consciousness worked but they don't, I owe everyone, especially XXXX and XXXX, a huge apology.

You ever get the feeling you know something and then something like this occurs and you find you don't?  I am simply flabbergasted at my own ignorance, my humblest apologies, I simply had no idea. Get this though, my wife understands how this kind of consciousness works, I just presumed so would many other spiritually aware people, ignorance certainly isn't bliss.

I'm in a different world and I suppose I always have been, I was ignorant to this as well, my humblest apologies everyone.  And please don't get the idea that my world is higher or lower in stature, it's simply just a different world. Just be aware that the ego often perceives otherwise as it would seem, there is simply no known narcissism expressed here by me.

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What is inside for one isn't inside for another, the perception there is some absolute truth that everyone is of the same inner being isn't true in my mind. How many different perceptions of the inner self are out there to start with?

Now, which one is right over and above the others? We simply and obviously don't have the same inner perspectives XXXX. Why do you seem to be projecting an absolute here, that all inner perceptions are the same?

Why then push inner perceptions as being the only true one onto others who know different? Lets be truthful here, going onto someone else's post and forcefully projecting your own absolutes of the inner self so much is projecting an absolute.

Some people go in and the only thing they see is light and love when there is so much more, it's literally infinite. To a lot of people who go no further than love and light, these people often perceive only light and love is projected through the inner being, this is simply not the case.  Is the inner being limited to light and love? You would think so, going by my own experiences though, it's literally unlimited, it's infinite in nature.

To me you are limiting the inner being to certain perceptions and perspectives, not everyone has the same inner being so why push your own perceptions of your own inner being onto others.

We want to help people realise what, that our own personal perceptions of the inner being, being the same for everyone, in other words limited to certain set projected perceptions!!

This is exactly what I mean about black and white mentality, it's the same for everyone when it's obviously not, not through the experiences I have had anyway.      

So someone like me has not explored inside, your joking aren't you? Just because my inner beings perceptions are not the same as yours!! This is pretty shallow/limited in my mind XXXX. Everyone's exploration is different, this doesn't mean they haven't explored but you obviously think they haven't because it's not the same as yours!! 

It is obvious I am of a different world to you, XXXX and XXXX; this doesn't mean people like me haven't explored the inner being. We all simply don't express the same inner being perceptions XXXX.

In the future I won't project my own views on other people's posts on here, not that this would have helped in this case, however, I do think the reaction I got here did stem from me saying that love is a motion therefore ego on another post.

XXXX, the inner being isn't as limited as you perceive, it's literally infinite in nature but of course you must find this out for yourself to really know this. Are my own inner projected perceptions of the inner being of everyone else's? Absolutely not, this doesn't mean that others haven't gone within does it? 

You often reflect a black and white mentality XXXX, which one of us out of XXXX and I have not gone in, in accordance with your own inner exploration? 

Can the divine consciousness express disdain, meaning, refuse acknowledgment through contempt?

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It wouldn't matter how a person like me expressed themselves, a true love and light person could not themselves express disdain in any sense like I described because distain can only be expressed by an ego in control. The ego simply controls people to express contempt.

Sadly, I have not been on one forum where the owner and other members of the forum have even come close to expressing any kind of divine consciousness, in actuality quite the opposite. I am usually critically judged and labelled some kind of ego maniac or worse or I am simply judged as not being of the inner being, of course as they are.

I am myself not a true love and light person I however express way more love and light than people who claim to be of love and light or of exploring their inner being when it's presumed I haven't. I simply don't have disdain/contempt for anyone; of course the ego is going to see this differently for obvious reasons.

If you are showing any kind of contempt for me at all, it is obvious you are nowhere near being of the divine consciousness or love and light.

I find the reactions I get quite interesting but also saddening. I should also say that there are people who are observers of these forums who are truly of love and light, it's just they don't dare speak up or have no need to speak up.

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"I do have a problem with megga ego who

build themselves up by putting others down and can't even see they are doing it."

Is not a megga ego in line with an ego maniac? Not once in knowing XXXX have I critically labelled her an ego maniac or narcissist even though it is obvious she quite often puts herself well above other people like me, after all I am something XXXX noticeably has disdain for and wants to change to her kind of world, as mine is disdainful.

How many people into spirituality these days show an obvious disdain for the perception of God and/or religion. There should be less judgment therefore less disdain but there is a lot more judgment therefore a lot more show of disdain.

God to me represents a true state of oneness because it represents all of what is void of desiring to be of one's desires, this includes what we personally perceive how a divine consciousness would be like. When I mention God or religion, certain people showing obvious disdain for God and religion often try to hang me in some way. The perception of God isn't just pure awareness or nothingness or ego, the perception of God represents everything, this gives the ego an idea of a true sense of oneness in my mind.

In regards to religion, religion is as good or bad as the people of the religion are as of any ideology or philosophy, to people like me it's this simple. People will be people.

In regards to love and light, how old is the perception of love and light? Within my own knowing, it goes way back to the antediluvian times, its not just from some old consciousness, it's ancient, so why didn't it work back in the antediluvian period?

To my knowledge it did to a certain degree but also to my knowledge love and light became yet another be and end all, they simply didn't go on from love and light. It's impossible to limit an infinite consciousness but it's not impossible to limit a perception of a consciousness. Once we have a fixed (limited) perception of a consciousness, the consciousness involved becomes finite in nature.

If even an ounce of God's consciousness directly expressed itself today, it would be hung and labelled some kind of ego maniac or more likely something a lot worse if it didn't express itself in line with other people's fixed perceptions. I simply just don't get it......

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If you are willing to learn through forums at the same time being expressive of your own inner being/world, it is likely you will have to learn through conflicts, especially if your own inner being/world is incomprehensible to other people.

I wonder at times if it's worth it, it's probably why I don't become involved with too many forums these days. Forums are not bad places to learn through but they can be daunting as in intimidating, it's really up to the individual if you are willing or able to learn through forums, especially if your world is incomprehensible to a lot of people. If you are already traumatised, it is advisable to stay away from forums that don't project your kind of inner being/world.

If on the other hand you can observe without becoming a participator of these forums, these forums can be quite enlightening. In saying this, after all this time on and off forums, I still simply don't get it, just maybe because I am participating too much instead of simply observing!!